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INCREDIBLE TIME CAPSULE 79K LOW MILE 2 OWNER SURVIVOR FUEL INJ LTD 150PIX+VIDEOS

  • Make: Ford
  • Model: Fairmont
  • SubModel: FOX BODY LTD STATION WAGON, MUSTANG SLEEPER. FUEL INJECTION
  • Type: Wagon
  • Trim: NO RESERVE! INCREDIBLE TIME CAPSULE 2OWNER SURVIVOR 150PIX+VIDEOS
  • Doors: 4 Doors
  • Year: 1984
  • Mileage: 79,495
  • VIN: 1FABP403XEG146416
  • Color: Tan
  • Engine size: 3.8L FUEL INJECTED V6
  • Number of cylinders: 6
  • Fuel: Gasoline
  • Transmission: Automatic
  • Drive type: RWD
  • Interior color: Tan
  • Vehicle Title: Clear
  • Location: Snohomish, Washington, United States

Description

NORESERVE!! ON THIS BEAUTIFUL AND HARD TO FIND 79K MILE 2 OWNER ALL ORIGINAL SURVIVOR 1984 LTD WAGON!! AUCTION ENDS TUESDAY FEBRUARY 20TH AT 7:00PSTTRUE NO RESERVE AUCTION THAT WILL RUN FULL TERM THIS SUPER CLEAN LITTLE FAIRMONT BASED LTD WAGON HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WELL CARED FOR AND LOVED FOR IT'S 34 YEAR LIFE! THIS WAGON AMAZINGLY HAS HAD ONLY 1 OWNER UNTIL 2011 WHEN IT WAS SOLD TO THE SECOND OWNER AND HAS CLOCKED JUST 79,495 ORIGINAL MILES AND IS IN INCREDIBLE ALL ORIGINAL CONDITION. IT HAS A CLEAR ACCIDENT HISTORY WITH THE MILES BEING LOGGED CORRECTLY IN AUTOCHECK AND CARFAX WITH THE LAST MILES AT 73K IN 2014. IT HAS BEAUTIFUL MOSTLY ORIGINAL PAINT THAT HAS A NICE HIGH GLOSS THAT HAS VERY LITTLE SIGNS OF WEAR. ALL OF US VEHICLE ENTHUSIASTS KNOW THAT YOU MAY OWN TEN VEHICLES IN YOUR LIFE OR YOU MAY OWN 100 AND THERE IS A FEW THAT FOR NO GIVEN REASON JUST ATTACH TO YOUR HEART AND LITERALLY TAKE ON A LIFE OF THEIR OWN WITH GIVEN NAMES, ARE THAT EVERY DAY WORK COMPANIO, BECOME ATTACHED TO HAPPY OR SAD MEMORIES OR JUST BECOME THAT COMFORTABLE AND STABLE FAMILIAR PART IN ONES LIFE. THIS IS WHY WE CRY WHEN A VEHICLE IS TAKEN IN AN ACCIDENT OR ANGERS US WHEN WE HEAR OUR UNCLE HAS SOLD GRANDPA'S OLD TRUCK WITHOUT NOTICE, WE TRULY CAN MAKE THEM AS LOVED AND VALUED AS THE FAMILY DOG AND WITH THE ORIGINAL OWNER HOLDING ONTO THIS CAR FOR 27 YEARS THIS WAS CLEARLY ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES TO THEM. THIS TAN BEAUTY IS IN AMAZING CONDITION THAT IS A TRUE RARE FIND AND TIME CAPSULE, SOPLEASE CHECK OUT THE 150 DETAILED PICS AND ALL THE VIDEOS! NO RESERVE! HIGH BIDDER TAKES IT HOME!! PLEASE READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE IN DEPTH DESCRIPTIONS AND SCROLL TO THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE TEXT TO SEE THE 150 LARGE DETAILED PICS FOLLOWED BY A WALK AROUND VIDEO WITH A BANNER ABOVE THAT HAS THE LINK TO THE RUNNING AND DRIVING VIDEO.WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE HUNT FOR CLEAN CLASSICS BUT ESPECIALLY ORIGINAL SURVIVORS, ODD VEHICLES AND CLASSIC TRUCKS, SO WHEN WE SAW THIS NEAR MINT ODD BALL LITTLE SURVIVOR WE COULDN'T LEAVE WITHOUT IT. THIS WAGON CLEARLY BY IT'S CONDITION TELLS IT WAS A LOVED AND EXTREMELY WELL CARED FOR CAR, AS ANY OF US KNOW YOU DON'T KEEP A VEHICLE FOR 27 YEARS UNLESS YOU TRULY LOVE IT, AND THAT LOVE CLEARLY SHOWS BY THIS CARS INCREDIBLY CLEAN AND ORIGINAL CONDITION IN AND OUT. THIS CAR AMAZINGLY STILL HAS IT'S FIRST TWO REGISTRATIONS AND EMISSIONS TEST IN THE GLOVE BOX, COMES WITH IT'S ORIGINAL KEYS AND IT HAS BEEN IN THE NORTHWEST IT'S WHOLE 34 YEAR LIFE AND LUCKILY WE HAVE MILD WINTERS OFTEN WITH NO SNOW AND NEVER USE SALT ON WINTER ROADS THAT HELP LEAVE BEAUTIFUL AND SOLID RUST FREE CLASSICS LIKE THIS ONE. THIS CAR WAS PURCHASED NEW IN IDAH, COMES WITH A CLEAN IDAHO STATE TITLE AND LIVED MOST OF IT'S LIFE IN THE EASTERN WASHINGTON IDAHO AREA, UNTIL RECENTLY WHEN THE 2ND OWNER MOVED TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF WA STATE. THIS CAR CAME FULLY LOADED WITH FUEL INJECTED 3.8 V6, AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, TILT STEERING, AIR CONDITIONING, AM/FM, ALL THE DELUXE STAINLESS AND CHROME ON THE OUTSIDE, DELUXE INTERIOR TRIM PKG WITH WOOD TRIM, FRONT AND REAR BENCH WITH BELTS FOR , CRUISE, POWER STEERING AND BRAKES. THIS CAR TRULY DRIVES AS TIGHT AND SOLID AS YOU CAN GET WITH A SMOOTH, QUIET AND VERY COMFORTABLE DRIVE. NICE SOLID OPENING AND CLOSING DOORS FREE OF ANY DOOR SAG THAT GIVE THAT TIGHT POP WHEN THE DOOR HANDLE IS PULLED AND THAT BEAUTIFUL DEEP VAULT LIKE SOLID SOUND THAT EVERY CAR GUYLOVES TO HEAR WHEN CLOSING THE HEAVY DOOR ON A CLASSIC. THIS CLASSIC IS IN AMAZING SOLID AND ORIGINAL CONDITION FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND IS 100% RUST FREE CONDITION. NOW I LOVE TO KEEP ORIGINAL CARS SURVIVORS, BUT A GUY CAN GET SOME IDEAS ON THE ULTIMATE SLEEPER WITH THIS CAR AND THE IDENTICAL MERCURY VERSION OF THIS CAR WAS JUST TURNED INTO A TURBO STREET MONSTER BY IT'S OWNER JASON DOISHER AND JUST DID THE HOT ROD POWER TOUR. ILL INCLUDE A PIC TOWARD THE TOP AND IT IS A EASY FIND WITH WHEN SEARCHING ONLINE. BODY- AS YOU WALK AROUND THIS CAR AND TAKE IN THE THE OVERALL AMAZING 34 YEAR OLD ORIGINAL CONDITION IN AND OUT, YOU CAN JUST FEEL AND SEE THE CLEAR LOVE AND CARE THIS CAR HAS RECEIVED START TO BLEED OUT MORE AND MORE THE FURTHER YOU LOOK AND THE MORE YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE SMALL DETAILS. THE INTERIOR, DRIVE QUALITY AND THE OVERALL TIGHT AND SOLID FEEL THIS CAR GIVES, TO ME IS WHAT ROUNDS THIS CAR OFF TO BE IN A LEAGUE AND STATUE OF IT'S OWN AND IS THE CHERRY ON THE TOP, BUT WHAT IS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PART OF THIS 3 DECADE OLD SURVIVOR IS INCREDIBLE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR. THIS CAR IS IN MOSTLY IT'S ORIGINAL TAN PAINT THAT IS IN GORGEOUS CONDITION WITH SOME PAINT WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ALONG TIME AGO ON THE PASSENGER SIDE. ALL THE PAINT HAS A VERY HIGH GLOSS SHINE THAT HAS THAT SMOOTH FEEL AND WET LOOK. ALL PAINT MATCHES WITH EQUAL WEAR AND AGING AND LOOKS LIKE IT IS ALL ORIGINAL PAINT, BUT WHEN YOU DO A DEEP INSPECTION YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE OVER SPRAY IN THE DOOR FILLER AREA, A COUPLE SMALL DRIPS ON THE FRONT VALANCE UNDER THE BUMPER AND ALL OF THE CAR HAS THE ORIGINAL FACTORY HAND PAINTED PINSTRIPE, EXCEPT ON THE PASSENGER SIDE IT WAS REPLACED WITH YOU STANDARD VINYL STYLE THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE UNTIL YOU TOUCH IT. THIS CAR HAS A GREAT FLASHBACK TIME CAPSULE FACTORY LOOK AND STANCE. AS MENTIONED ABOVE THIS CAR HAS NOT ONE PAINT BUBBLE, ROT, CANCER OR SURFACE RUST AND HAS A BEAUTIFUL EQUALLY AGED LACQUER PAINT ALL THE WAY AROUND WITH THAT KILLER HIGH GLOSS FINISH. THE CAR STILL RETAINS ALL IT'S ORIGINAL GLASS WITH THE FORD LOGO THAT IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, ALL THE PLASTIC LENSES STILL HAVE NICE COLOR AND CLARITY AND ARE FREE OF ANY CRACKS OR DAMAGE. THE CHROME ON THE BUMPERS SHOW WELL AND HAVE NICE REFLECTION,THE DOORS SHUT AND POP OPEN VERY TIGHT, SMOOTH AND EASY WITH NO SAG, ALL DOORS LOCK, ALL WINDOWS ROLL UP AND DOWN SMOOTHLY AND THE CHROME EXTERIOR DOOR HANDLES ARE STILL NICE AND TIGHT AND DO NOT FLOP OR RATTLE LIKE OFTEN FOUND ON THIS ERA OF VEHICLE. THE HOOD POPS RIGHT UP WITH ONE EASY PULL ALONG WITH THE TAILGATE HATCH THAT STAYS UP, SHUTS AND CLOSES WITH EASE, BUT THE REAR GLASS DOESN'T STAY UP WHEN POPPED SEPARATE AND JUST NEED A NEW GAS SHOCK THAT RUNS ABOUT $15. THIS CAR HAS EXCELLENT ORIGINAL PANEL GAPS ALL THE WAY AROUND AND OVERALL CONDITION SHOW IT HAS BEEN GARAGED AND NOT LEFT OUT IN THE ELEMENTS. YOU CAN SEE HOW SOLID AND HONEST THIS OLD WAGON IS BY THE PICS ON THE TOP OF THE ROCKERS, BOTTOM OF DOORS, FLOORBOARDS, BODY MOUNTS, UNDERSIDE OF ROCKERS AND ALL THE OTHER HIGH RUST AREAS. THIS CAR IS ARROW STRAIGHT AND TO ME IS A TEN OF TEN'S FOR SURVIVOR CONDITION, BUT EVEN AS US PEOPLE IF WE WERE LEFT IN A BUBBLE FOR 34 YEARS WE STILL WOULD SHOW SOME AGE AND HAVE LITTLE IMPERFECTIONS. THANKFULLY THIS CAR CLEARLY HAD A VERY EASY LIFE, SO THE WEAR IS VERY MINIMAL WITH SMALL STONE CHIPS THAT ARE NO LARGER THEN A PEN TIP, MAINLY ALONG THE FRONT FASCIA OF THE NOSE, TOP SIDE OF HOOD AND ALONG THE LOWER AREAS BEHIND THE TIRES.THERE IS SOME SMALL ENTRY MARKS AND CHIPS AROUND THE REAR HATCH AND DOOR ENTRY AREAS ALONG WITH SOME CHIPS AROUND DOOR EDGES. ALL THE BLACK EXTERIOR RUBBERS AND MOLDING STILL HAVE NICE DEEP COLOR, BUT THE OUTER RUBBER THAT SITS AGAINST THE DOOR SIDE GLASS IS AGED AND GETTING HARD RESULTING IN SOME SURFACE SCRATCHES IN FRONT PASSENGER DOOR GLASS. THERE IS A SMALL DING UNDER THE MOLDING TOWARD THE REAR OF THE DRIVER DOOR AND A SMALL ONE ABOVE THE MOLDING ON THE DRIVER SIDE REAR DOOR. THE ORIGINAL PAINTED PINSTRIPE ON THE HOOD EDGES IS GETTING FAINT FROM YEARS OF LOVING WAXES, THE SILVER AROUND THE HEADLIGHTS AND IN THE GRILLE HAVE STARTED TO FADE AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A CHIP OUT OF THE PLASTIC IN FRONT OF THE DRIVER HEADLIGHT AND THE FRONT MOLDING IS MISSING ON THE VERY FRONT OF THE PASSENGER FENDER. I HAVE ATTACHED MANY CLOSE UP PICS AND IT CAN ALSO ALL BE SEEN IN THE VIDEO, BUT IF MORE ARE NEEDED LET ME KNOW. THIS WELL LOVED FAMILY HAULER IS HARD TO FIND NOT ONLY IN UN-MOLESTED ORIGINAL CONDITIO, BUT VERY HARD TO FIND ONE OF THIS CALIBER INTERIOR-INSIDE THE SAME WELL PRESERVED AND TIME CAPSULE LOOKING ORIGINAL CONDITION FROM THE OUTSIDE FOLLOWS TO THE INTERIOR. INSIDE IT IS IN INCREDIBLE CONDITION AND IS AS CLOSE TO PERFECT AS YOU CAN GET! NEVER SMOKED IN WITH A PERFECT UN-USED ASH TRAY AND CIGARETTE LIGHTER, NO PETS, LEAKS, MOLD OR SMELLS AND BEING A GARAGED AND WELL PRESERVED CAR IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE ITEM THAT IS SUN FADED, THE DASH, SEATS, DOOR PANELS, SEATS, PLASTIC TRIM AND HEADLINER ARE IMMACULATE WITH THE SAME COLOR AND SHADE AS THEY WERE NEW. THERE IS NO CRACKS OR HOLES IN THE DASH, DOOR PANELS OR ANY PLASTIC TRIM. THE SEATS ARE EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE ON SHORT OR LONG TRIPS WITH NO BREAK DOWN ON THE INNER FOAM OR THE CLOTH, THEY HAVE NO HINGE OR SLIDER ISSUE AND THE REAR SEAT QUICKLY FOLD UP IF YOU NEED TO HAUL LARGE ITEMS OR SLEEP ON A ROAD TRIP. THE INTERIOR CARGO AREA IS IN GREAT SHAPE WITH THE ORIGINAL SPARE AND JACK SET-UP ALL INTACT UNDER THE CARPET. THE BLOWER MOTOR, CRUISE, WIPERS, RADIO, ALL LIGHTS AND SWITCHES WORK PROPERLY. THE TILT STEERING COLUMN IS TIGHT AND ADJUSTS SMOOTHLY, THE STEERING WHEEL HAS NO BREAKDOWN WITH CRISP THIN WOOD TRIM ALONG WITH THE DASH AND ALL THE GAUGES ARE NICE AND CLEAR AND WORK PROPERLY. THE RED SEAT BELT LIGHT STAYS ON THE DASH FOR SOME REASON, THE A/C BLOWS COLD, BUT BEING WINTER I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST 25-35 DEGREE OUTSIDE AIR BEING PULLED IN OR A/C BLOWING COLD. THE CARPETS STILL HAVE THE NICE WOVEN PATTERN WITH NO FLAT WORN SPOTS, NO HOLES, FADING OR BIG STAINS WHICH IS AMAZING FOR THIS COLOR OF INTERIOR THAT'S 34 YEARS OLD. THE ONLY REAR WEAR IS A LITTLE DARKENING IN THE CARPET IN THE FOOT RESTING AREAS AND MAYBE A LITTLE NEAR THE DOOR ENTRIES. THE DOORS POP RIGHT OPEN WITH EASEAND SHUT LIKE NEW WITH ONE SOLID SOUND AND NOSAGGING AND HAVE BEAUTIFUL GLOSSY PAINT THROUGHOUT THE JAMBS AND HINGES WITH NEARLY NO ENTRY WEAR MARKS. THE HEADLINER IS THE SAME AS MOST OF THE INTERIOR AND IS PERFECT WITH NO SAGGING AND THE SUN VISORS MOVE FREELY AND STAY IN THE POSITION YOU LEAVE THEM, BUT THE MATERIAL THEY HAVE COVERING THEM IS SOFT AND YOUR FINGER LEAVES MARKS WHEN YOU GRAB THEM. OVERALL THINS INTERIOR IS AMAZING AND I WISH I COULD FIND ORIGINAL INTERIORS LIKE THIS EVERY WEEK AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO TO FIND A NICER AND MORE ORIGINAL 34 YEAR OLD INTERIOR! MECHANICAL- THIS LITTLE TAN WAGON CRUISER IS VERY TIGHT AND SOLID MECHANICALLY. IT IS A VERY STRONG AND SMOOTH RUNNER WITH NO HESITATION, TICKING, SMOKING OR ISSUES. IT DRIVES AND STOPS STRAIGHT AND TIGHT JUST AS IT SHOULD. IT HAS THE FACTORY FUEL INJECTED 3.8 V6 MOTOR, AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, POWER STEERING AND POWER DISC BRAKES UP FRONT. IT HAS JUST HAD A FULL TUNE-UP DONE, ALL NEW FLUIDS AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER JUST HAD NEW TIRES PUT ON, SO IT ALWAYS FIRES RIGHT UP, RUNS SMOOTH AND IS A EASE TO DRIVE ON COUNTRY ROADS OR ON THE HIGHWAY. THIS CAR IS SUPER CLEAN UNDER THE HOOD WITH FACTORY DECALS AND ASSEMBLY MARKINGS CRYSTAL CLEAR AND STILL IN PLACE ALONG WITH THE UNDERSIDE OF THE CHASSIS AND BODY. IT IS NOT SPRAYED WITH CHEAP DETAIL SPRAY AND IS NOT SPOTLESS, BUT LEFT IN IT'S HONEST CONDITION SHOWING IT HAS BEEN WELL CARED FOR AND MAINTAINED, BUT STILL DRIVEN AND USED. I ALWAYS LOVE FINDING LOW MILE SURVIVORS BECAUSE IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS UNDER THE HOOD THAT JUMP OUT, LIKE HOW CLEAN AND BRIGHT THE FINISH IS ON THE A/C FITTING, WIPER MOTOR, ALL THE FACTORY GROMMETS, THE POWER STEERING PUMP AND LINES. THE BRAKES STOP SMOOTH AND STRAIGHT WITH NO PULLING, SHAKING, FADING OR NOISES. THE STEERING IS VERY SOLID WITH NO WONDERING WHEEL, PLAY, CROOKED WHEEL OR BALL-JOINT BINDING SOUNDS AND THE SUSPENSION IS NICE AND TIGHT THROUGH CORNERS AND BUMPS WITH NO BODY ROLL OR BOUNCY SHOCKS. ALL THE WIRING AND BOLTS ARE ORIGINAL AND UNTOUCHED. THE FUEL INJECTED MOTOR ACTS LIKE A LATE MODEL CAR WITH NO TRAFFIC OR COLD START WORRIES, HAS NICE THROTTLE RESPONSE, IDLES CLEAN AND SMOOTH AND HAS NO ISSUES OR SIGNS OF BEING TIRED. THE AUTOMATIC TRANS HAS NICE QUICK DOWN SHIFTS WHEN YOU PUT THAT LITTLE V6 TO WORK AND HAS NICE CONSISTENT UP SHIFTS. THIS IS A FUN CLASSIC THAT I WOULD NOT STRESS ABOUT BEING IN TRAFFIC WITH AND WOULD TRUST TO TAKE ANYWHERE :) THE LTD AND FAIRMONT WERE MADE BY THE MASSES, SO CAN'T REALLY BE LABELED AS A RARE CAR, BUT THEY ARE RARELY SEEN ON THE ROAD TODAY ESPECIALLY IN THIS CONDITION. THIS ERA IN THE AUTOMOTIVE WORLD WAS NOT BUILDING VEHICLES THAT STIRRED MUCH PASSION IN PRODUCTION OR IN OWNERSHIP AND WAS NOT AIMED TO BE VEHICLES THAT WERE MEANT TO BE CHERISHED, BABIED AND LEFT IN THIS KIND OF CONDITION OVER 3O YEARS LATER. THIS ERA OF THE DOMESTIC VEHICLES WERE PURPOSE BUILT BY MANUFACTURES AND PURCHASED BY CONSUMERS TO BE A TRANSPORTATION VEHICLE AND THAT'S IT. THIS GENERATION OF CARS IN AMERICA WERE NOT TYPICALLY LOOKED AFTER OR MAINTAINED THE BEST AND OFTEN DRIVEN HARD UNTIL SOME KIND OF MECHANICAL FAILURE THEN THROWN ASIDE AND REPLACED. MOST OF THE AMERICAN MADE CARS ALONG WITH MANY TRUCKS SAW A SHORT FATE AND OFTEN WERE NO LONGER ON THE ROAD A DECADE LATER. OFTEN TIME JUST A SMALL PROBLEM LIKE A STARTER OR FUEL PUMP WOULD PUT THESE CARS OUT TO PASTURE AND IS WHY TODAY OVER 34 YEARS LATER CARS LIKE THIS LTD WAGON GET SO MANY COMMENTS AND SECOND LOOKS BY PEOPLE. IT'S NOT OFTEN TO SEE ONE STILL CRUISING DOWN THE ROAD, LET ALONE AS MUCH OF A ORIGINAL CREAM PUFF AS THIS ONE. I HAVE BEEN AMAZED WHEN I HAVE HAD THIS CAR OUT OR THE 76 GRANADA WE HAVE LISTED AND HOW MANY PEOPLE STOP TO MAKE COMMENTS ON NOT JUST THEIR CONDITION, BUT BY HOW MANY PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE A GRANADA OR FAIRMONT STORY. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IN THEIR LATE 20'S TO 60'S HAVE HAD A MAVERICK OR ONE OF THESE CARS IN THEIR FAMILY LINE SOMEWHERE AND THEY ALWAYS START WITH EITHER THE COMMENT " BOY YOU DON'T SEE THOSE ANYMORE" OR "I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I SAW ONE OF THOSE" WHILE THIS CAR STILL OF COURSE WILL SHOW SOME YEARS AND AGING IT STILL HAS THAT FACTORY FRESH TIME CAPSULE LOOK AND IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO THE CARE AND LOVE THIS CAR WAS GIVEN BY IT'S OWNER'S, AS IT JUST SIMPLY WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY OR LOOK AS GOOD AS IT DOES TODAY IF IT WASN'T LOOKED AFTER! The older the car, the harder it is to define the condition of the vehicle.Most of our vehicles are specialty vehicles or are 15+ years old, and usually trucks. Because of this, it is very difficult to describe each vehicle to everyone’s satisfaction. Based on the bidder'spersonal experience, some bidders will be overly pleased with my description and pictures, and others may feel that I fell short. I postthese auctions based on how I want to see auctions when I’m buying, keeping in mind what I look for, and I try to put your eye's to what I can see and touch. Please help me by asking all questions and letting me know if other pictures are wanted. If you do not see a pic or description of a item or a area on the truck please do not assume anything and ask me about the specifics your a needing or for more pics and i will post every question asked by members so all potential bidders can see. 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